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The Trinity and The Shack

Monday, August 25th, 2008

The positive buzz around Paul Young’s book The Shack continues at a high level. And so does the criticism.

As recently demonstrated from one of the calls to a local radio show called Think Out Loud, an area of condemnation is Young’s portrayal of the relationship between the three persons of the Trinity. It is called heretical because it doesn’t depict a hierarchical trinity where the Son is subordinate to the Father.

Young attempted to address the issue with the caller by bringing to their attention the Athanasian Creed.

This creed is attributed to Athanasius (A.D. 293-373), the champion of orthodoxy against Arius’ attacks on the doctrine of the Trinity. Although likely not actually written by Athanasius, most scholars believe it expresses and reflects his influence. It describes the doctrines of the Trinity and the nature of Christ in very concise language which makes it one of the clearest statements on the Trinity and the incarnation ever written.

Note that, for clarity, I have used the term “universal” instead of the origin “catholic” since the term is not a reference to the Roman Catholic Church, but to the universal (catholic) faith.

Athanasian Creed

Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the [universal] faith. Which faith except everyone do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly. And the [universal] faith is this: That we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity, neither confounding the persons, nor dividing the substance.

For there is one Person of the Father, another of the Son, and another of the Holy Spirit. But the godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, is all one, the glory equal, the majesty co-eternal.

Such as the Father is, such is the Son, and such is the Holy Spirit. The Father uncreated, the Son uncreated, and the Holy Spirit uncreated. The Father incomprehensible, the Son incomprehensible, and the Holy Spirit incomprehensible.

The Father eternal, the Son eternal, and the Holy Spirit eternal. And yet they are not three eternals, but one Eternal.

As also there are not three incomprehensibles, nor three uncreated, but one Uncreated, and one Incomprehensible. So likewise the Father is Almighty, the Son Almighty, and the Holy Spirit Almighty. And yet they are not three almighties, but one Almighty.

So the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God. And yet they are not three gods, but one God.

So likewise the Father is Lord, the Son Lord, and the Holy Spirit Lord. And yet not three lords, but one Lord.

For as we are compelled by the Christian verity to acknowledge each Person by Himself to be both God and Lord, so we are also forbidden by the [universal] religion to say that there are three gods or three lords.

The Father is made of none, neither created, nor begotten. The Son is of the Father alone, not made, nor created, but begotten. The Holy Spirit is of the Father, neither made, nor created, nor begotten, but proceeding.

So there is one Father, not three fathers; one Son, not three sons; one Holy Spirit, not three holy spirits.

And in the Trinity none is before or after another; none is greater or less than another, but all three Persons are co-eternal together and co-equal. (my emphasis) So that in all things, as is aforesaid, the Unity in Trinity and the Trinity in Unity is to be worshiped.

He therefore that will be saved is must think thus of the Trinity.

Furthermore, it is necessary to everlasting salvation that he also believe rightly the Incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ. For the right faith is, that we believe and confess, that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is God and man; God, of the substance of the Father, begotten before the worlds; and man of the substance of his mother, born in the world; perfect God and perfect man, of a rational soul and human flesh subsisting. Equal to the Father, as touching His godhead; and inferior to the Father, as touching His manhood; who, although He is God and man, yet he is not two, but one Christ; one, not by conversion of the godhead into flesh but by taking of the manhood into God; one altogether; not by confusion of substance, but by unity of person. For as the rational soul and flesh is one man, so God and man is one Christ; who suffered for our salvation, descended into hell, rose again the third day from the dead. He ascended into heaven, He sits at the right hand of the Father, God Almighty, from whence He will come to judge the quick and the dead. At His coming all men will rise again with their bodies and shall give account for their own works. And they that have done good shall go into life everlasting; and they that have done evil into everlasting fire.

This is the [universal] faith, which except a man believe faithfully, he cannot be saved.

Bottom-line: Young’s portrayal of a non-hierarchical Trinity is very old and orthodox. It is interesting that, until recently, Subordinationism has been seen as the heretical view.

More on The Shack

Tuesday, July 29th, 2008

Derek Keefe’s “overview” of The Shack called Reading in Good Faith has been getting some buzz.

Keefe brings some needed balance to the conversation.

The Shack

Monday, September 24th, 2007

“The Ooze” Select Blogger Book Review

When bad things happen in your life, do you ever think God has intentionally brought or allowed them to occur and that you deserved it?

Do you ever imagine God in terms of a hard old white haired man who is ready to disciple us (the Father), the loving son who loves us and keep the Father from being too hard on us (Jesus) and the ethereal and unknowing “person” who seems to have no mind of his own (the Spirit)?

Ever ask, “Where is God in a world so filled with unspeakable pain?”

I’ve thought those thoughts and asked those questions and a million more. Well so has William P. Young (he goes by his middle name, Paul) and The Shack (Windblown Media, 2007) is a novel that communicates many of the answers that he has discovered in his 50 year plus life journey.

The Storyline

Mackenzie Allen Philips’ youngest daughter, Missy, has been abducted during a family vacation and evidence that she may have been brutally murdered is found in an abandoned shack deep in the Oregon wilderness. Four years later in the midst of the pain and darkness that has taken over his life as a result of losing Missy, Mackenzie receives an apparent note from God which reads,


It’s been a while. I’ve missed you.

I’ll be at the shack next weekend if you want to get together.


Against his better judgment he arrives at the shack on a wintry afternoon and walks back into his darkest nightmare. What he finds there changes his world forever.

To be honest, most Christian fiction is pretty poor and I avoid it. So I didn’t start reading this novel with much of a positive expectation, but what a pleasant surprise. When I’d have to put it down to do other things, I couldn’t wait to get back to it. I dog eared and marked lots of page. I simply loved Young’s portrayal of the triune God and his understanding that God loves the process and we are in process because He loves us.

One word of caution. If you need doctrinal purity or require that every theological point touched must to be biblically perfect, you may struggle reading this work. You have to remember that it is not scripture, it is a story intended to communicates some very abstract concepts. And I think he does it pretty well.

Who is Paul Young?

In his own words, “Overall, I am a very simple guy; I have one wife, six kids, two daughter-in-laws and two grandkids on the way. I work as a general manager, janitor and inside sales guy for a friend who owns a small manufacturers rep company in Milwaukie, Oregon, and I live in a small rented house in Gresham, Oregon, that Kim has made into a marvelous home. My time is spent loving the people that are a part of my life. I am not connected, or a part, or a member of, or involved inside any sort of organization or movement anywhere. The truth is that I doubt anyone would want me. From my perspective that is a very positive thing — for both of us. I have lots of incredible friends — Oh yeah — and I wrote this book.”

What Others Have Said

Here is what Eugene Peterson says about The Shack, “When the imagination of a writer and the passion of a theologian cross-fertilize the result is a novel on the order of The Shack. This book has the potential to do for our generation what John Bunyan’s Pilgrim’s Progress did for his. It’s that good!”

And from Jordyn Foster, a 12 year old, “This is my most favorite book that I have ever read.”

From around the blogosphere: Internetmonk, Emergent Voyageurs, What’s In My Head, Pilgrimguide, and My Emerging Faith.

Paul blogs at Wind Rumors.

You can hear an interview with the author here although you will have to listen to some non-relevant discussion at the first, but wait for it because it is a good interview.

Any of you read this book yet? If so, share your reaction and comments.