A good one-on-one discussion with Alan Hirsch where he discusses the missional church, focusing on the need for change and strategies for cultural engagement.
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This post about Dr. Gordon Fee (emeritus professor of New Testament at Regent College in Vancouver, British Columbia) is a bit of a departure from the norm and I promise not to make it a habit.
Dr. Fee’s latest work, Revelation, was published in October as part of the New Covenant Commentary series. I’ve got it on order and look forward to having it in my library. We desperately need a thoughtful and biblical take on this book that isn’t filtered through our dominate western rationalistic worldview.
In the 32 minute video interview below, Dr. Fee talks about the book of Revelation and basic principles of understanding Scripture.
Here are a few select quotes to give you a taste for the interview.
I don’t have trouble with people reading the Bible literally, because most of it is to be understood literally. But they shouldn’t read the Psalms or the Revelation that way. Yes, take it literally in terms of what it is, but please let it be its thing, don’t make it different than what it is.
[Revelation is] a marvelous book, and I just cringe whenever I see and hear people take it and make it have to do primarily with something in our future, when the only stuff that’s in our future [is] chapters 21 and 22. Everything else belongs back in the near future of these seven churches and all other Christians at the beginning of the second century.
I just experience enormous pain when I hear [Revelation] used in a Dispensationalist way, because frankly they know almost nothing about the book as John intended.
The problem with North Americans … is that we think we have a special privilege with God and we should get all the breaks and none of the pain.
[If there is one thing to know about the book of Revelation, know that it is] about the first century church that is headed for a terrible two century holocaust. Read it with that in view and then ask yourself, where do I fit in.
Enjoy and let me know what you think.
I’ve often noted that the term “church” refers to the people of God; the called out ones; those formed for his dwelling and bearers of his presence in the world. It doesn’t refer to a building, denomination or physical location.
This video clip points this out well. I wish I’d had it for the class I recently taught on the subject. My tagline for the class was, “The Church is a who, not a what.”
HT: Rob Fairbanks
This is a series of videos, produced and by Imbi and Bill Kinnon, of a chat between Gary Nelson, President of Tyndale University College & Seminary and Dave Fitch, Associate Professor of Evangelical Theology at Northern Seminary. You need to take time to watch these videos. They are really insightful and encouraging.
In this first conversation, Dave and Gary discuss whether the word “missional” had become so over-used/mis-used that it no longer has value.
Here Dave and Gary talk about theological education that is not simply for full-time seminarians, nor designed purely to create full-time ministers, missionaries or other paid church staff.
This third video looks at The Pastor in Post-Christendom, a calling that lacks social significance in the eyes of much of society. They end the conversation talking about what excites them about our future in a Post-Christendom world.
You can subscribe to Bill Kinnon’s Missional Channel on Vimeo for more videos on the Missional Conversation. There are 14 videos available at this time.
Yesterday I shared three major developments that Reggie McNeal believes must take place in order for the church to undergo a missional transformation.
The second shift in the three is to move from a program-driven agenda to a people-development agenda. This shift is necessary because the North American church has largely become a collection of programs run by staff and non-staff leaders and has lost its people-development calling.
Reggie believes the “rise of the program-driven church correlates directly with the rise of the service economy in post-World War II America. The manufacturing engine powering the economy yielded to the service sector as Americans could afford to pay other people to do things they no longer wanted to do themselves or couldn’t do themselves. People began to outsource food preparation, lawn maintenance, laundry, oil changes, and child care. And Americans outsourced spiritual formation to the church. It was during this period that the concept of church as a vendor of religious goods and services became entrenched in the ethos of the North American church culture.
“The demanding service expectation on the part of church families drove the church to proliferate its offerings in children’s and student ministries at first. This was followed by scores of other programs in an increasingly market-driven approach to capturing church members. The church growth movement of the last quarter of the twentieth century fed this frenzy as churches clamored for customers who could support the program expansion. The result was a resettling of the church population into congregations who have both paid attention to this program expectation and fed it as well.
“Church programming became increasingly complex as churches became more adept and more able to develop ministry options. The assumption grew that the church could provide the venues and opportunities for people to live out their entire spiritual journey as part of a church sponsored or church operated activity. This approach to Christian life has gone on now for so long that it seems natural and normal to North American church people.”
Because the program-driven agenda has become so deep-seated and expected, nurturing a people-development agenda and culture will require some important alteration in the way church leaders think and behave. In this video, Reggie talks about this second shift and how to foster it.
This is a 2-minute video that attempts to provide a sense the change in perspective between our traditional view of church and missional church.
HT: Alan Hirsch
A great 40 minute talk by Ed Stetzer on “missional leadership.”